Dav Yaginuma;
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    sean

    PLEASE NOTE: For the record, the first San Francisco flash mob idea was -not- my idea, I had nothing to do with it, and beyond a few brief e-mail exchanges this week I don't know the people who though it up. The spinning idea was not what Dav referred to above when he recounted our discussion at Sam Wo.

    Dav, I -think- I know what you're saying in "I appreciate the situationist humor of the gatherings." Sort of. But what bugs me about the situationist thing is that what I've seen of it was couched in all this very esoteric, academic language, the kind of language designed to confuse rather than to communicate. I have the feeling that too many of the people who got Situationism going were making it the foundation of their doctoral theses or something. Then again, maybe I'm missing something because I haven't had the patience to read through much of that stuff. I love some of the Situationist gags and games that I heard and read about in college, but I don't think I'd want to read -accounts- of those gags and games written by actual Situationists...

    I disagree that tech plays little role here; e-mail and weblogs play a tremendous role. That's how you quickly gather specific participation that cuts across a wide swath of society without involving big corporations or the big government. I think you're lamenting the fact that this is nothing compared to what this will become. Once widespread, cheap, location-aware networked devices come into the picture these sorts of events will grow into something that you'll never mistake for old-school pranks; events whose dependence on technology you won't overlook. This has all been written about before but it's good to see it starting to come together.

    Dav

    You and I both have been discussing this over the last few weeks and using the term situationist freely, now suddenly you want to take some sort of anti-intellectual stance against Situationism like some sort of blue collar man-of-the-people, Mr. UC Berkeley Grad Student?

    And I stand by the fact that tech plays very little role so far. It is obvious from the context of my comment, since I give examples of how tech could play more of a role, that I am talking about technology being used during and immediately preceding the event. In that aspect, there is no technology role whatsoever so far, other than synchronized time keeping devices. Assuming this phenomenon continues to grow and evolve, I am confident that history will prove me right relative to the role technology will play scant years from now.

    jim

    with the talk of flash-mobbing and its relation to tech I had a vision: Suddenly a mob appears, they stand around being harmless. Nearly at once all of their cell phones start ringing. Is it because they planned for someone to call them at this exact time? Or are they all calling each other? Will it overload the local cell circuits? If the circuits are overloaded, will they just make their phone make the ring noise to add to the cacophony, or would that be posing? How long should one talk on the phone after receiving the call?

    It really doesn't have anything to do with coordination, but it would be wacky.

    Of course, everyone could use their phone text message email address to subscribe to a mailing list, which could then be used to direct the herd, er, mob. Mooo.

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